Best: BookSavvy
Stacey/BookSavvy/Super Cool Lady went to this taping, and was kind enough to send over a Best & Worst report from the first show outside of the Impact Zone. Thanks Stacey! This is rad. I’m all done here, so please, play us out.
Full disclosure: I really only attended Impact because of Danielle & this column. When TNA made their big tour announcement and that the first stop was Chicago, I felt it was my duty as a WithLeather fan to attend. My family has always been a diehard WWE one and until I was old enough to go to Indy shows on my own, WWE live events were it for me. So I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a little bit excited to finally see Sting in person.
Best- SUPER NO VACANCY KINDA SORTA!
My Twitter feed mentioned how full the Sears Centre arena looked. Weeeeeeelllll about that. Watching after the fact, TNA did a great job of camera angles and lighting to make the arena look bigger and more full that it was. The upper deck on camera side was completely empty, the uppermost parts of the other decks were sparse and the arena was ⅓ roped off with the ImpacTron. So in an arena that fits 11,200 (to put it into perspective, the AllState Areana where RAW is held has 18,500 capacity), they probably had room for maybe 8,000. I don’t know the numbers, since they didn’t announce it like WWE does, but I’d say around 7,000? Remember, this is STEINER MATH at best and nothing to scoff at considering the capacity of the Impact Zone in Florida is 1,400. So good on them for making the most of what they had and they really made it look like a much larger crowd on TV. They’ll have to do a better job next week, which I’ll get into later.
Worst- A thing that probably only annoys the locals
Please, please, for the love of God, stop showing Chicago when we’re in Hoffman Estates, (which is a suburb of Chicago… Excellent.) We are about 40 miles away from the spot in the City that you’re showing at this moment. WWE is guilty of this too (or showing a “live” shot that is totally not weather appropriate in January and obviously stock footage of Buckingham Fountain in May) but at least Rosemont is only about 6 miles from the city limits. Everyone in the arena is rolling their eyes at you and yes, we know the people at home don’t know any different but we do and it annoys us. And ask Joseph Park what happens when you assume we all like the Cubs. (Booooooo!!! YOU SAID A TEAM WE DO NOT CARE FOR AS MUCH AS YOU DO! BOOO!!!)
Worst- “HEY! THAT’S NOT REALLY THE LEGION OF DOOM!!” Thank you, Captain Obvious
A perfectly acceptable show can be made a million times worse by a “bad” crowd. In my section, I was surrounded by the type of fans that Eamon Paton talked about at The Mandible Claw. They wanted nothing more than to be heard on tv or to “entertain” the people around them. Choice chants of the night included FEED ME MORE, WHAT?, CENA, CM PUNK, an attempt at BORING that thankfully died, THAT’S SO GAY, and my personal favorite, WE WANT PUPPIES during the Knockouts. They were the epitome of everything that is horrible and stereotypical about wrestling fans. Now, maybe others had a better group where they were, but from where I was sitting it didn’t seem like our situation was unique.
Chicagoland is known for our audience: we get involved, we chant, we cheer and it can be deafening. I’m sure it’s why TNA chose us for their first road show. But usually it makes… sense? The crowd was all over the map and I think a lot of that was the fact that many people (like myself) don’t watch the product on a regular basis and just wanted to watch some wrestling and have a good time (and maybe see Sting in person.) There is nothing wrong with enjoying the show and cheering or booing along but think about the people around you for a second before you choose a random chant. Does the guy in front of you really want to listen to you scream the chant or gimmick of every WWE superstar you can think of in his ear? Yes, Velvet Sky did a move(?) that Aytch does. Yup, that guy did The Code Breaker. Others use these moves too. Who are you, Kurt Angle? They are not unique to WWE or TNA for that matter. It’s called wrestling. We get it. You know stuff about things. Why don’t you Tout about it. And please, please… Sting punching Aries is not “awesome.” You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
A Best goes to the guy sitting next to me who was there by himself and was awesome and laughed and talked a bit with me. So, if dude who was sitting next to the nerdy librarian with the “Dusty Sucks Eggs” shirt is reading this, thanks for being the only cool guy around us.
Worst- WHY ARE YOU SHOWING NOTHING BUT TAPED SEGMENTS?!
I know this is TNA’s first foray into live shows away from the Impact Zone in the States, so here’s some constructive criticism. The commercial breaks and vignettes KILLED the crowd. While you guys were watching replays and Popeyes commercials, we had… nothing. Nothing but blue flames on the ImapcTron to stare at and guys around us talking about what they wanted to do to Velvet Sky. It killed any momentum. There were so many vignettes and it was obvious that they were all pretaped, so the audience started to just tune it out. The audio in the arena was horrible and we could barely hear anyone talking in the ring and it was the same during the taped segments. The crowd just died a little bit more each time as the night progressed. Like my soul.
As much as we get annoyed with WWE for running matches through commercial breaks, at least the live crowd is kept in the moment. When there isn’t action in the ring, breaks at RAW have product commercials or other clips showing on the Tron. Even if it’s for Cena’s new RAPADOOOOOO shirt or something, the crowd can boo/cheer at the screen and stay engaged. There was nothing shown on the Impact screen during the whole night, just the logo with the blue flames. What a waste of a giant screen (there weren’t any other mini screens in the arena either.) It really felt like there was no reason for the show to be live and cool guy next to me even said as much. We could just as easily taped on another day and aired it without the looooooong breaks. Which brings me to…
Best/Worst- MORE WRESTLING! WAIT IS THIS NEXT WEEK’S SHOW?
After the melee in the ring where Bully attempted to goad us into throwing things at him (NO! Stop doing this. Organic disgust is one thing, this is just lame), the crowd started to leave. I don’t know if they’ve never been to any wrestling events before, but usually there’s at least one dark match or something to send the crowd home happy (see CENA if WWE). Since RAW went 3 hours, we don’t always get it, but this crowd had no idea what was going on. Thankfully, the jerks behind us left right away, as did probably ¼ of the audience. Christy Hemme finally mentioned they would be right back with “8 more matches!!” But there was no mention that it would be taped and would be next week’s show. In fact, it wasn’t until someone (I’m going to try to remain spoiler free) finally did an in-ring interview and mentioned “last week” in reference to something that happened 20 minutes ago, did everyone realize we were taping next week’s show right now. Towards the end of the taping, Mike Tenay finally mentioned this would all be on next week. Take a look next week, they’ll be trying even harder not to show the upper decks or the back of the arenas. There were some pretty big holes on the floor too. So maybe it would benefit them to mention that as soon as the Live portion ends.
But to be honest, the people that left right away were the ones who only wanted to be on TV and just yell WWE things at the ring. The crowd that stayed was great. They cheered, chanted and we had a lot of fun. A few little kids moved in front of me and turned back to ask me things and started chanting whatever I chanted (when I cheered for Samoa Joe, they started a Joe’s Gonna Kill You, chant which was kind of awesome). It was more of a house show feel and since they didn’t have any vignettes or commercials to show us, the pacing was much better without the long, awkward breaks.
Best- TRIFECTA OF LOVE
With the exception of the Angle beatdown (which was the lamest beatdown ever so no one could really get upset about it), Joseph Park, Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe were so over that everything they did got a reaction. I’ll add Jeff Hardy in there too, but that’s kind of a given at this point. The Hardy kids rivaled Cena kids in their devotion. Two young boys near me lost their ever loving minds whenever he came out, lost their voices and STILL tried to scream for him and hugged their parents so sincerely when he won a match that even I wanted to cheer for him… OMG WHAT AM I SAYING. We only got to see Tara once, but she got a huge pop since she’s now a Chicagoan. She even got to plug her new restaurant in the City, aptly named The Squared Circle.
BUT the crowd LOVED Samoa Joe and my heart grew 3 sizes that day for the Impact crowd. I won’t spoil next week’s show but we got more Joe, Angle & Park and actually very little Aces & Eights… thank you wrestling gods. Kurt Angle got a great pop, as did Tara, and Samoa Joe seemed almost in disbelief at the number of JOE chants. D-Lo (another pseudo-Chicagoan) did not do a head waggle for me, which gave me a sad, but I guess disappointment is par for the course when you’re an Ace and/or Eight.
All in all, my first non-Indy, non-WWE event didn’t start out the greatest but it ended a lot better than it started. I don’t know if I’d go again without more Wrestling Bros as a buffer from any of “those guys” but at least I got to see Sting, cheer for SAMOJO & Joseph Park, and Tara.
Very Secretest Four Star Diary of SamoJo, Day 2831:
Still not Champion. F**k this shit man. Does Dixie see how over I am here in Chicago? I could shit on a photo of Harry Caray and they’d still f**king love me. But nooo kids want Hardy to be the champ. God dammit. At least I’m not stuck staying in the shitty Marriot near this dump. I don’t think I’ll even shower before I sleep in Punk’s bed. That’ll teach that prima donna to not have any real food in his house for his friends. What the f**k is this Kefir stuff, man? Ugh. And why does Impact think we want to have an afterparty with the fans at some restaurant? I don’t wanna spend the rest of the night watching some doofus stare at Velvet’s boobs while dripping pizza sauce on his Cena shirt. Ugh. Stupid Punk, Stupid Dixie, Stupid Impact.


I was at this taping too and I completely agree, the commercial breaks killed the crowd. At least we got a healthy dosage of Metallica, Macklemore and the Harlem Shake. Oh and that TNA TAG thing where you would get an “exclusive free reward from ShopTNA.com?” Yeah, that was bullshit. Not in a “here’s a 10% off coupon!” kind of a way, more of a “Welcome to Impact at the Sears Centre!…and that’s it” kind of way.
Also, the matches in the 2nd taping were actually kind of good, especially the X division matches, K2 botches aside.
I look forward to this every week now, thank you so much for doing it.
between here go hell come reference and the very detailed look at the chain of events of the biker gang genesis, it’s like we’re in some way two hearts beating for one.
BIG fan. HUGE!
“That’s right, Sting. Let the salty waves of senility crash over you.” Holy sh*t Danielle that is beyond beyond. Be proud.
Amen to that
Dish network in all it’s infinite wisdom moved what channel Spike was on and my DVR couldn’t make the one simple adjustment it’s paid to do.
Maybe the wrestling gods are trying to tell me something?
I was hoping for the B&W of Lockdown so I could ask if anyone else noticed the point in the Brisco/Angle match where Wes knocked Angle down and could have just walked out of the cage, but instead threw himself down and did the slow crawl for the door so Angle could drag him back in with the ankle lock.
Everyone but Wes Brisco saw it and thought it was a bad idea.
Seriously, that guy….
Wes Brisco was totally dropped on the head a few times as a kid.
“Good morning! Or…good whatever time of day you’re reading this at! I hope you’ve had a lovely week. You look nice today.”
Thank you for noticing. I showered today.
Also, no excuse for tardiness, Danielle. You’re making part time blogger money now, and with great power comes great responsibility.
I make no money, so…..
That’s the joke. It’s part of my new movie, Nerd of the Rings, which is just me typing on a message board for three and a half hours. Peter Jackson is directing, hence the running time, unnecessarily long exposition, and it being shot in 48 fps despite just being words appearing on screen.
I also attended IMPACT – great writeup! Bully Ray told me to eat shit, which was nice. I attended Bound For Glory ’08, where Joe and Sting had a barnburner – probably a lot of love left over from that match.
Dynamite as always and the guest B&Ws were huzzahtastic as well!
with all the excitment I saw from you guys here for IMPACT, I’m totally sure that non of you had 1/100th excitment as much as I did all lockdown-IMPACT long !!! and I watched them from home, WITH THE COMMENTARY !!!!!
me and my brother were LITTERLY, like really really, JUMPING ALL THE TIME IN HAPPINESS OVER EVERYTHING !!! EVEN WES BRISCOE AND TARYN TARREL !!!!!
I guess I’m toooooooooooooooo much of a “mark” for TNA … it’s gotten serious lately !
Yay, it really does exist! Thanks for doing these Danielle, they are always great. And yes please to a B&W of Smackdown!
And is that a Breaking Bad reference in the title? You’re amazing.
Good B/W, It feels like I didn’t even miss the show.
Quick question about the picture of Hogan and Sting, Fall Out Boys. How much has Hogan shrunk over the years? Every time he has back surgery do they remove vertebrae? He used to be around 6’8″, now he’s shorter than Sting?
I don’t see how Hogan makes sense as the higher power anymore. Sure those little things you mentioned would be nice touches in hindsight, but it would also create a history where Hulk knowingly married off his daughter under false pretenses, took multiple savage TOTALLY REAL hammer beatings, betrayed everyone who isn’t an Ace and/or Eight, and for what? Getting Bully in a position to steal the title from Hardy? He’s the GM, he could do that any time. To take over TNA? He already runs it. To betray Sting? Not only is Sting the easiest man in wrestling history to trick into trusting you, but that would be some Cactus Jack pretending to be a homeless amnesiac-level stupid mind games.
But even that would be preferable to where I think they’re headed: Brooke Hogan, Higher Power. With good actors it’s a compelling story of a daughter long-neglected by her famous father deciding to get his attention by destroying the career that she felt he loved more than her. With Brooke… We’ll get some hilarious screenshots.
I like the cut of your logical assessment of the motivations behind whomever is revealed to be the “Higher Power”. Hogan doesn’t make sense for the exact reasons you’ve outlined. He has nothing to gain by introducing Aces and Eights, he already has all the control in TNA. His entire motivation would have to be “I wanted to be a dick to everyone”, which I guess isn’t that crazy considering we’re dealing with TNA.
Ignoring your Brooke Hogan theory (which made me gag a bit). I think the two people with the most obvious motivation to be behind Aces and Eights are Eric Bischoff and Double JJ. Both used to “run” the company both got ousted by the good guys and both have beef with Hogan. The only other wrestlers I think make any sense are guys that have jumped to WWE like Nash or Flair.
With all that being said I bet it’s Dixie.
Samoa Joe’s Diary is quickly becoming the bestest thing for me. I’m glad to hear he’s getting big pops next week, because I heart Samoa Joe and want him to do things that mean something again.
I’m glad you like SamoJo’s Diaries! Sometimes I write them and I think I’m the only one who can possibly think it’s funny, so I appreciate that I’m not just making myself giggle. :)
you sure aren’t alone !
SamoJo’s Diaries > JSOM !!!
Bully Ray is all Aces and Eights
You’re all Aces and Lates.
They should change their ring music to anything Ace of Bass.
Great read, Danielle. And if a B/W of Smackdown does happen, we know we have Eamon or BookSavvy capable of writing winners.
Great stuff, from Danielle and the contributors. The part where BookSavvy said the Cubs reference got boo’d made this White Sox fan smile. SOUTH SIDE
SOUTH SIDE!!! :D
If Bull Ray brings is skull cap down any more, he’ll become Dumb Donald.
*Bully
Great recap once again. Was really dissappointed all weekend when it wasn’t up but was greatly surprised and excited to see it today. I am glad the second guest writer pointed out how annoying it is when a promotion holds an event in a small town near a larger one and just pretends that it is in the bigger town.
After hearing Tazz being hated on so much in this B & W every week, I think I ve come to realise that I must be his only fan in the world. Nothing in my week makes me happier than listening in amazement at the nonsense that consistently spews forth from that man.
NO ! you’re not alone :D
I hate his commentary and wish they’ll change or fire him, but until then, whenever I hear him TRYING HIS HARDEST TO COME UP WITH EXCUSES FOR EVERYTHING THE HEELS DO, I’ll smile and laugh !
Cameo week! YEs!
Thanks again for letting me contribute this week! I really enjoyed your piece on who the President of An8 could be. I really hope it’s not J-E Double F… HAHA… J-A-Double R, E-Double T.
And UGH. I had to cut out my paragraph on my annoyance/disgust for Taryn because it became nothing but rage rage keyboard pound. The only plus is that I won’t have to see her in that stupid ref costume again. Maybe Velvet will lend her some fuzzy boots.
I like Taryn/Tiffany. I mean she’s awful at being a ref, but gosh darn it she’s just so dang earnest about it.
EXACTLY ! I totally agree !!
“Even the little things, like that sinister look over Brooke’s shoulder that back then made you think something maybe kind of is totally up, but then in retrospect makes you appreciate the subtleties he’s been able to put into his character.”
Trying to diagram a sentence like that makes my head hurt worse than Jeff Hardy’s.
Is all Canadian English as incomprehensibly structured as this article?
Great work, Danielle. And a special +1 for @BookSavvy! Your contribution was awesome, and I loved your SMOJO journal! Good work all around!
I’m not sure if your DVR cut off Aries/Sting too, but I’m shocked it didn’t even get a mention. The ADouble showed why he is just might be The Greatest Man That Ever Lived(If Dixie would pay for the Weezer song as his entrance, It might cure me of all forms of depression forver) by dragging Sting to the best match he’s had since WCW. It was fantastic, and I wrote on Twitter that A8′s should have been booed for interrupting the best match Sting has had in TNA. Just great work and a great match, and here’s to hoping that the four best heels in TNA team up to form a Mecha Dirty Super Bad Influence Heel God Stable for the ages, though WithLeather would have to find a new reviewer for TNA, because Danielle would probably go into a happiness coma.
EXACTLY !
I “looooooved~” everything the aces & 8′s did at that day !
but I found myself booing unintentionally when they inturrupted the main event, because they robbed us from the ending of that AWESOME sting/aries match !
not to fear anything, ARIES SHOOTS ON TNA AND STING BACKSTAGE, AND CHALLENGES STING TO A REMATCH !!!
You like wrestlers dressed as other wrestlers, huh? Well hold on to your butt, Danielle.
BEHOLD!: [24.media.tumblr.com]
I ALMOST REALLY STOPPED BREATHING FOR A MOMENT !