
The Rose Bowl hosted Saturday’s Gold Cup final between Mexico and the United States, and as the more talented and energetic Mexican squad capped a dominant 4-2 victory after spotting the Americans a two-goal lead, senior Sports Illustrated soccer writer Grant Wahl, noting the heavily pro-Mexican crowd, tweeted “Let’s be clear: Almost everyone in this stadium is American. And it’s kind of cool.”
I found Wahl’s comment infuriating on several levels. Not only did his blanket statement leave me wondering how many social security cards he’d checked as fans entered the stadium, it assigned my nationality to a fan base that is among the most vulgar, foul, and subhuman in all of sport. The filth of Mexican soccer fans is well documented: the chants of “Osama” at a 2005 match, their insistence at drowning out “The Star-Spangled Banner” with boos, the bags of urine and cups of vomit thrown at U.S. players. But I’ve always assigned those actions to Mexican fanatics in the legendarily brutal Estadio Azteca in Mexico City; I’ve never considered those animals to be American, and I certainly don’t relish that prospect as “cool.”
Uproxx reader Julie — a Boston native and therefore no stranger to boorish fans — traveled to Pasadena for the match. This is her account:
I decided to go to the Gold Cup final in Pasadena, as a single girl, I would never make the same trip to Azteca, so I figured this would be as close as I got.
We arrived to tailgate with the American Outlaws, and were clearly outnumbered, I know Alexi Lalas thought the crowd break down would be 80/20, but it was more like 95/5.
I avoided most of the pushing and shoving stuff that went on in the parking lot and since I was with other girls, most guys just wanted pictures taken with the US girls. We had some good natured ribbing but nothing that would indicate what was coming.
When we got to the stadium, my ticket was for a US supporter’s section that was full of Mexican fans, so my friend told the security guard there was no way he would leave me alone to sit, and I was going to sit with the rest of my group. As the stadium filled in, we were shocked to see how few US fans were at the game, more shocked that we scored first. We went nuts in our section and the stadium went silent, same when the second goal was scored. When Mexico scored their first goal, we were showered with beer cups, half full water and coke bottles. One US fan had to leave because he was hit with a glass bottle. Security at the Rose Bowl didn’t care. Didn’t give a sh*t.
Second goal again we are getting pelted, so eventually, my guy friends would push us to the ground when Mexico would score and stand behind us to protect us from the debris being showered on us. When the game ended, we all ran to our cars and got the hell out of the stadium. Again not all the Mexican fans were bad, many of them shook our hands as we exited the stadium and told us better luck next time.
Most of us didn’t expect to win the game, but we also didn’t expect to be treated that way. While walking through the parking lot with my buddy, a Mexican fan yelled at us “go home.”
Kind of cool, right, Grant Wahl? The way all those Americans cheering for Mexico abused American fans in America?
There’s a minefield of racism and xenophobia to navigate here: the anger of Mexican immigrants toward a white America happy to exploit their labor but unsettled by their growing numbers; the incendiary subject of illegal immigration; the heated rivalry between two nations who share a border and are the region’s only soccer powers; the worldwide tendency for soccer fandom to skew towards hooliganism. But I can say this with certainty: the behavior of Mexican soccer fans — whether in the United States or in Mexico — is a mark of shame for our southern neighbors and shouldn’t be allowed — inside our borders or anywhere else.


The first step of La Reconquista is complete.
Don’t know how but while reading this story urine sprayed out of the webcam on my laptop and drenched me.
Fantastic article. I’m a big soccer fan, MLS season ticket holder since Seattle got an MLS team, and I’ve seen games all over the world. I wrote a letter to the US Soccer Federation about how embarrassing it was to have a home game sound like it was being played in Mexico City. That was poor execution in terms of where the game was played and how many US fans they got out for it. It’s pretty pathetic, and it wouldn’t happen in other countries.
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This is another article about the disgusting behavior of the Mexican fans. Good job naming them the best fans in American, ESPN.
Somehow I feel Mexico should be more concerned with the fact that two-thirds of their country is an open battleground than with the behavior of their soccer fans. But the two go hand in hand, it appears.
It’s a situation that I don’t see getting any better. As horrible as it is when it happens in the US, it is so much worse in other countries. I think only a US-Mexico tie brings out that kind of crazy in North America, but abroad, there are so many more permutations. More often than not, it’s between countrymen when city rivals meet.
I too was there, wearing a USA hockey jersey (sorry, I’m American, I don’t have the requisite soccer apparel yet). Yes, I got heckled in my home country and told “Bye bye American” on my way out after the game. And 95/5 does seem like the right breakdown on attendance – it was a sea of green at the Rose Bowl. But to be fair, I heard some pretty dumb racist comments from some gringos as well (said safely out of earshot of the Mexican crowd), so to blame the Mexican fans is not really telling the entire story. If you figure 19 Mexican fans for every 1 American fan, there were also probably 19 Mexican morons for every 1 American moron as well. Racism and idiocy are still universal. The security at the Rose Bowl was nearly invisible to me, though. Guess the half-empty UCLA football crowds didn’t prepare them for this.
You could remove the term ‘soccer fan’ from the headline.
nyuk nyuk nyuk
@Alex,
You show me the ignorant American soccer fan throwing a beer bottle. You show me the fan chanting the Mexican equivalent of OSAMA (not at this game). You show me the American fan who boos during the other team’s national anthem.
What’s really “cool” to Grant Wahl is his paycheck.
Whatever his true opinion, he knew what he could not say.
Hell, if he had more than 140 characters to work with, he would have nervously pecked out a column that included this:
I hated it, but I loved it. I was felt as if I was in a strange place, and yet I felt right at home.
[www.latimes.com]
These writers might not be geniuses, but they understand the concept of risk and reward. So do I, so, um…I love the fresh perspective these fans bring! We have much to learn!
Mexico should only play in the Orange Bowl.
*shakes maracas*
Gracias, gracias, Estaré aquí toda la noche. Incline a su camarera.
the secrete to avoiding the horrible mexican fans is to buy the most expensive seats in the stadium this will keep all the riffraff away.
@donturtuccio
American fans throw objects on the field and at other fans ALL THE TIME. Being a Philadelphian, I have this pointed out to me repeatedly. Perhaps you recall Cubs fans “Pujols mows my lawn” and Fukudome “Horry Cow” shirts (and Fukudome is a hometown player!). And American fans have booed other anthems (this incident comes to mind – [www.nytimes.com]).I can’t show you an ignorant American soccer fan doing this stuff, because frankly, there aren’t enough passionate American soccer fans (which is why there were only a few thousand of them in their own stadium). But American sports fans generally? They do plenty of ignorant, racist and xenophobic things.
“Dey took eur Jerbs!!!!”
A Sports Illustrated writer writing something stupid? Shocked that Grant Wahl writes for the same magazine as Peter King and don’t forget Rick Reilly wrote for SI for about 20 years.
Must have been the safest night of the season at Dodger Stadium with all those a-holes at the Rose Bowl rooting for Mexico.
In other words, the exact opposite of a Stanley Cup Game 7 – clean inside; riot outside.
Who had the fantastic idea of playing this game in Pasadena?
Luckily nobody was wearing a San Francisco Giants jersey.
@thedayman
It was CONCACAF. The USSF had no choice in the matter. The tournament was profitable, so CONCACAF wins.
This is truly a golden age of pandering. Plaschke might win a lifetime achievement award before he’s done.
This is why soccer should strictly be a third world sport.
@donturtuccio:
I can show you the American fan who shouts out “USA!” and “Konichiwa, bitches!” during the moment of silence for the tsunami victims at the USA v Argentina match. Will that suffice?
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Mexico doesn’t have the monopoly on idiot soccer fans.
Alex,
Just so you understand, these were largely AMERICAN fans targeting the American team. Mexican-Americans. I’m a Philadelphian too, but this is a bit different from the usual ‘sports fans can be pigs’ routine.
I was going to let it slide, but my sister doesn’t believe the account came from me as it lists me as a “Boston native”, so to set the record straight, I am not from Boston, but Carolina-Duke country also prepares one for the boorish fans of Boston and Mexico
I don’t know. I was there cheering for the U.S., and the Mexican fans were nothing but nice to us. I think you are generalizing far too much because I’ve had a worse experience wearing San Diego Padres apparel at a SF Giants game. Mind you, most of the fans there were American. I’m sorry if Mexican fans were talking trash. It’s a sporting event. Get used to it.
I still think it’s a bit of a double standard being applied to the Mexican-American fans. I’m not excusing their behavior here, but I do think it’s perfectly fine for them to support the Mexican team. I don’t think we’d be faulting Americans living abroad for continuing to support the USMNT. And I don’t think we fault Europeans living in the US for continuing to support the teams of their home countries. The issue here is that there are a lot more team Mexico fans in Southern California than there are team USA fans. You get 90,000 team Mexico fans and 3,000 team USA fans in one stadium; you’re going to have many more assholes rooting for Mexico. Nationality isn’t the issue. Each fan base has its assholes.
So jrkumor isn’t from Boston and the Phyllis cheerleader photo is fake. I’ve lost faith in America.
I wouldn’t say a “double-standard” is being applied. The same standard would be applied to German-American fans cursing and throwing urine on American players. But you’re right, the fact that Mexico is so close makes a difference. In everything…from this to assimilation in general. So many angles, and most of them politically sensitive. Which is why sportswriters play it safe.
sounds like a raiders game… wore powder blue chargers to a game and got the same treatment.
I watched the game over here and didn’t see anything that I haven’t seen at matches before. I enjoyed the passion and excitement in the game, although I was hoping the USA would be better.
My team, Chelsea, had an owner who was fed up with sections of fans pushing up against the fence that seperated the pitch from the terraces. His solution? Electric fences.
In Spain they throw pigs heads at players who switch teams. Fans wear hoods and visit homes of players who ask to leave their club, and threaten them.
It’s not acceptable, but from reading Julie’s account, I was reminded of growing up here and visiting games when these things went on. It doesn’t happen now with all-seater stadiums in England, but it was nowhere close to being a Hillsborough or Heysel.
Play the fucking game in Boise, Idaho and see how the urine bomb thing works out.
@Smegga – Exactly. Look, anytime its US v Mexico its going to be rowdy, regardless of where its played. And yes, this was tame in relative terms. Only a day or two later in Argentina, a team got demoted and people pulled a Vancouver-on-crack routine. Look, I’m not saying how some Mexican supporters behaved was right, but as its been pointed out you will always have a segment of the fanbase that uses sports as an excuse for violence and hooliganism. Its been a problem in sports since anyone can remember and its not solved yet, is it?
PS – Smegga, think I love you. Big Chelsea supporter here :)
Having lived in LA for over 30 years, I can tell you that the people doing the piss and vomit bombs are the same people that drove the crowds out of the Coliseum and forced the Raiders to go back to Oakland and have now taken over Dodger Stadium and brutally attacked the guy in the Giants jersey.
There is, sadly, a large population in Los Angeles that is frustrated at their position in the pecking order and takes this frustration out at sporting events by getting drunk, acting tough, and messing with shit until someone stops them. The only effective way to eliminate them is to 1) price them out as the Lakers have done, 2) create family sections and have tight security as the Angels have done, or 3) severely limit or prohibit alcohol sales as UCLA football has done.
I have been to many soccer games in LA and the piss-throwing has happened in games between Central American countries, not just USA-Mexico games. The people doing this don’t have a clue as to who is playing most of the time.
Like commenters above have said, there are assholes everywhere. However, I have to say that there are more of this particular type of asshole in LA.
If we’re lucky, these wonderful Mexican fans can make this country as wonderful and prosperous a country as the country that they are so proud of. You know, the country they left when they illegally entered the U.S. I guess the U.S. fans deserved it though, because the Mexicans are frustrated ‘n’ stuff by us not spreading our asshole sufficiently while they rape and pillage this country like they have the land of murder and torture known as Mexico. “Pretty cool”, isnt it?
Kinda rediculous how USA can play an away game in their own country. Not only an away game, but a rediculously outnumbered away game. Mexico is good at soccer but this situation really isnt about soccer. We have so many people in this country with such self entitlement because they get stuff from our goverment without paying back into it. This game showed how messed up this country really is. Kiss my ass if you think its not true but how many of the Mexico fans that were in the crowd were legal? Sad that we even have to ask that question in the first place.
Boo hoo, the US was playing an away game in their own country! The Nats play an away game in Washington every time the Phillies are in town.
@kerry – Truth.
Alex, you are pathetic both for being a soccer fan and for being from Suckadelphia. Everyone knows they are the most worthless jerks in the country (Soccer fans and people from Philly) I vote we deport the whole worthless lot of you to Mexico where you can’t stuff batteries in snow balls and can drink your urine bombs togetehr in “Brotherly Love”.
Gold Cup finals,River Plate fans riot..who’s stupid enough to go see any soccer match in person? That’s what television is for, that also applies to Raider home games.
I too read this article and immediately thought “Raiders Game.” 95% of the Raiders fans are Mexican (don’t let the black and silver face paint fool you). Is this a coincidence? I think not.
Also, what’s the point of having separate Mexican and American rooting sections in Los Angeles?
I don’t have a problem with someone born and raised in Mexico who now mows laws in Brentwood cheering for Mexico. The problem most of us have is when first and second generation Mexican-Americans root for Mexico against the USA. If you want to go ahead and do that, okay…but don’t get all bent out of shape when people question your patriotism and your attachment to this country.
I’m not still cheering for Ireland, after all.
There are crazy fans everywhere. Who ever wrote this article is an idiot. Read this you dummy: [www.themanitoban.com]
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Can you please write an article now about how anglo-American soccer fans being boorish animals? Thank you.