
Almost nothing on this website should be taken seriously. It's here to provide laughs, not make serious statements or accusations or shed light on injustice or any of that. It's fun: I truly enjoy calling Canada "Canadia" and pretending that everyone from South America speaks Mexican. It's much more fun — and easier — than providing serious commentary. So you'll excuse me if, for just one post, I avoid cheap jokes.
A friend of With Leather who works in radio tried to get me a telephone interview with John Amaechi. Excited yet woefully bad at journalism, I emailed several prominent bloggers (oxymoron noted) about what I should ask the retired NBA vet who publicly came out of the closet with his new book, Man in the Middle (Big Daddy Drew: "Tell me more reasons why Jerry Sloan is a fucking asshole").
Naturally, the interview fell through, so instead I went to his book-signing at the Astor Place Barnes & Noble in Manhattan with the hopes of asking a question or two that could make decent blog fodder.
I ended up getting a lot more than that.
The event was crowded, and I took the first open seat I could find. The person next to me was Rich Merritt, a former Marine officer (like me!) with a USMC tattoo on his shoulder (like me!) who wrote a memoir (like me!) that shares details of his erotic gay experiences during "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" (ummm…). But it's not like I give a shit if a guy is black or white or straight or gay or what have you. Former Marines who are also writers are hard to come by in New York, and as far as I'm concerned, that's enough common history to be friends.
As chance would have it, Rich has the same literary agent as Amaechi, and all of us went out together for drinks afterwards. What follows is a series of non-journalistic observations I culled from John's long question-and-answer session with the crowd and our subsequent travels around the Meatpacking District, Chelsea, and the West Village as we sought out booze and a scene where John could see "pretty people."
- First and foremost: John Amaechi is really fucking smart. He uses words like "ethnocentrism" and "empathic" and speaks with refreshing candor. Every response he gave was infused with so much perspective that I found myself repeatedly thinking, "Yeah, why DO people care that he was a gay in the NBA?" Example: Spurred on by some excellent insight I got from Kevin Arnovitz at ClipperBlog — he's the only openly gay sports blogger I know — I asked John about how a lot of writers and fans had talked about how the bigger development would be when an active player came out, and how much that hypothetical player's talent level could make it an easier transition. He laughed off the notion of it somehow creating monumental change in America's attitudes toward homosexuals. He took a metaphorical step back and wondered how, if the hate crime against Matthew Shepard couldn't erase prejudice against gays, what would "gay Shaq" be able to do?
- On his NBA career, and choosing retirement and working with kids over suiting up for the Knicks: "They needed a lot more help than what I could give them." And again, the perspective (I'm paraphrasing): "What I did, when you boil it down, was put a ball in a hole. Ten years of my life: putting a ball in a hole. I was good at it. I could do it from 18 feet, even. Sometimes 20 feet on a good night." His stance is that working with other people and affecting lives positively is more important than playing sports professionally.
- On the level of support versus animosity from the American black community: the majority are intelligent, empathic, open-minded blacks who simply aren't very vocal in their support. "Unfortunately, the sound of a million people shrugging is silence," so the voices that carry are the loud, bigoted ones, and it's an unfortunate coincidence that much of the immediate, public face of bigotry right now is black (Tim Hardaway, Isaiah Washington).
- Near the end of the Q&A, Ebony Haith from the first season of America's Next Top Model, who is openly gay, praised John for his honesty. How did I know she was from ANTM? She began her little speech by saying, "My name's Ebony, and most people recognize me from the first season of America's Next Top Model." John later admitted that he was surprised that someone would introduce herself in the style of Troy McClure.
- On religion, and the persistence of many Americans who "pray for him" and encourage him to "find Jesus": "I'm not agnostic and I'm not atheist. I honestly don't think about it. I think about this [motioned between him and the crowd]." His priorities are people; he's bothered by people who "wander around, staring into the sun, all the while stepping on people"; and people who quote Leviticus to him need to understand that that was the Old Testament: "It's been revised, you know. There's a new edition." He was also confounded by people who pick and choose what leftovers from the Old Testament are and aren't sins: "It also forbids eating shellfish. If being gay is as bad as going to Red Lobster, I'm not really worried about it."
- John finished his Q&A by demanding that the audience not clap, suggesting that they instead "buy him gin."
- Are there gay players currently in the NBA: yes, and he's friends with them. Or was. They haven't been showing up on his instant messenger buddy list recently.
- He insinuated that he had had romantic encounters with at least one other NBA player, but noted that merely being gay in the NBA wasn't enough to build a relationship around.
- On Garrison Keillor's Salon article about how gays need to tone down the stereotype of effeminate flamboyance if they want to be accepted as parents and couples: "My response to that would be for him to go screw himself." In all fairness to Keillor, that's Amaechi's response for just about anyone who says or writes anything that smacks of or reinforces homophobia. He used that phrase several times last night.
- His favorite gin: Hendrick's. Bonus points for me: that's what I keep in my liquor cabinet. It makes the best martinis. We also agree that Tanqueray No. 10 is too sweet.
- A six-foot-nine, 320-pound man can down a gin and tonic VERY quickly.
- For those of you who don't have gay friends, gay men check out men the same way straight men check out women. John Amaechi is no different. This seems like a mundane, obvious detail, but then a woman at one of John's recent signings told him, "I didn't realize gay people could be black." Yeah.
- My friend Billy joined us at G Bar (yes, that's a gay bar). Billy is an actor and close friends with T.R. Knight of Grey's Anatomy, who was the recipient of Isaiah Washington's "f—-t" slur. In the "it's a small world" department, Amaechi had spoken with Washington earlier that day — apparently Washington is making an effort to clean up his image in the gay community and the public eye.
- Take note: Having a beach house in Malibu is a lifestyle. Being gay is a life.
- He's looking forward to going home to London tonight for nine days, and getting back into shape (note: he doesn't look out of shape, at least as far as us regular-sized people go). Next week he'll appear on Bill O'Reilly via satellite. He gave the impression that he wasn't welcome in the studio. "Well yeah," I joked, "they might catch what you've got."
- Another Big Daddy Drew question: Are there gay NBA groupies? Answer: no. At least not remotely in the way there are women available for the straight players.
- Several of the bloggers I reached out to wanted to know: is Amaechi a top or a bottom? Seems a bit of a personal question to ask of a celebrity I don't really know, and I struggled with a way to pose the question. Well, Billy and John and I had a nightcap at Soho House, a ritzy Meatpacking District club where you have to be a member or be with a member in order to get in (I fall into the latter category). While Billy spoke with an acquaintance, I asked John, "How'd you come up with 'Man in the Middle'? Shouldn't it be 'Man on Top' or 'Man on Bottom'?" Alas, he didn't take the bait, and I was left with a mundane explanation of the position of center, and not intimate details of his sex life. Sorry. I said I was bad at journalism.
And that was that. Sometime around 1:30 a.m. we went our separate ways — John across the street to the Hotel Gansevoort, me to the subway for an hour of waiting and changing trains. I felt badly that I couldn't be a better a wing man for him in his search for pretty boys, but he didn't seem too upset by it and gave Billy and me hugs as he left.
I went home just absolutely impressed by Amaechi as a person. Not as a gay man; not as an NBA player; not as a mixed-race gay Brit in the NBA. He's simply a phenomenally intelligent, good-hearted, and good-humored person. And he probably looks forward to the day that all people see him as such: minus the labels.


Meatpacking District indeed
Alright, so this is a really good reason for missing one hell of a basketball game. I still say tasteful art photos of the Spain Train would have been better.
“What I did, when you boil it down, was put a ball in a hole. Ten years of my life: putting a ball in a hole. I was good at it. I could do it from 18 feet, even. Sometimes 20 feet on a good night”
If I wasn’t a heterosexual, ooooooo, John Amechi……
Enough with the self-deprecating BS. Save that for St. Patrick’s Day when you admit to the girl beside you that you would have cured AIDS if that orphanage didn’t catch fire next door, causing you to make a choice you still struggle with to this day.
You’re a good journalist. Great story.
Oh, and I hope he eats O’Reilly alive.
Excellent exclusive! I should never have doubted you.
I bet he nails O’Reilly then Papa Bear cuts his mic.
Even if you were able to put O’Reilly in his place it really wouldn’t matter, because he’ll just wiggle out of it or back off and move in another direction, all talking heads do the same thing. It’s to bad guys like this are shunned for being openly gay. I’m hetero myself and I for one don’t care what gay guys are doing, if they want to get married and be miserable like the rest of us I say go ahead.
What a superb and interesting post on Amechi there, Cap’n. Top notch! But don’t go forgetting about your roots there. The cheap jokes and outright disgusting insights are what got you to the dance. This kind of story sure does cleanse the pallet, but we came here for titties, sex cannon jokes and youtube clips. You gotta stay true to your roots.
“I ended up getting a lot more than that.”
The rest of the story did not go where I expected it to…
He’s simply a phenomenally intelligent, good-hearted, and good-humored person. And he probably looks forward to the day that all people see him as such: minus the labels.
The crazy thing is if you followed the Orlando Magic during the 1999-2000 season, you knew all these things already. Except for the gay part.
Writing like this, where you showcase your compassion and insight into the human condition, is why I miss Karmic Payback.
Wait a second. Let me get this straight. This guy…likes to have sex…with other dudes?
So what’s O’Reilly’s take? I don’t have satellite or cable right now (we’re moving into our house we’ve been building since last May on Sunday) so I haven’t seen any commercials or heard anything.
Great article. Period.
So when do you write an insightful and thought provoking article about some of the straight WNBA women? Oh how they must be stigmatized.
Seriously though, great article. I agree with Hail. The art of self deprecation ended with Rodney Dangerfield.
Not to sound all geeky and shit, but I don’t think your servers have been updated with the DST patch, unless they are in Central time. Then my bad.
Great story. Really excellent. But usually “With Leather” provides a semi-relevant pic of a girl with big boobs. What’s up?
Nicely Done.
BTW, The only reason I beleive that you are able to go Gin-for-Gin with a 6-9, 280-pounder is because you are a Marine. (Plus the other dude’s gay)
great.fucking.article.
on a side note..he was on the local radio show down here (dan lebatard show) several times and i agree..he is a very well spoken man
Very well done. And you say you’re a lousy journalist. I find you probably get better material in bar-hopping with a person than a formal, sit-down interview.
Nodody is even gonna mention the fact that Amaechi said he had SEX WITH OTHER NBA PLAYERS?!?!!!
My guess is Cherokee Parks.
Great interview, btw. I never knew gay people had opinions and feelings like regular people. That was eye-opening.
I know John, “Go screw myself.” I tried, it’s not that easy.
You should do ALL of your interviews in gay bars.
well done caveman.
i come for the boobies, stay for the insightful writing.
Definitely a pretty cool exclusive angle with the bar hopping. Great insights.
Definitely Christian Laettner.
I hate this article and the flaming butt pirate who wrote it makes me extremely uncomfortable. I also hate gay people, Bimbo Coles, and pteradactyls.
I enjoyed it a lot.
Not saying anything new, but fantastic work.
Excellent excellent entry.
You should have asked him if it is true he is considering being in Brokeback 2.
John should check out the God Hates Shrimp website.
“Pinch the Head, Suck the Tail, Burn in Hell!”
This entry truly deserves it little picture-link
‘”f—-t” slur’…lol at that one. and everyone wants the obligitory big boob photo to accompany this entry…fuck that. how about a dude with a really great cock? and sex lines.
“You gotta stay true to your roots.”
i’d say with this piece you’re much closer to doing that.
(ditto on swing4′s comment)
very nice, matt. thank you.
That was some good stuff. Please don’t lose your writer personality. You have a gift man, that no mainstream news media outlet could contain!